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thank you this talk is going to be

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unusual in a couple of ways one is it's

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unusual for the SSE irva group because

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I'm proposing a technology and the

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second reason that it's somewhat unusual

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is that I'm wearing a tie so I will try

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to be a little bit formal before we get

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into the technology let's talk about the

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definition of psychotics so Saibot --ax

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is the branch of technology that deals

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with robots driven by SCI mediated

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intention so their physical systems

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driven by SCI this definition in the

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Oxford English Dictionary is fine except

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that it's probably only going to come

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out in a few years we invented this word

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I was talking with my class on the

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science of psychic phenomena this last

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semester at the University of Colorado

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and described this and one of the

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students David Myers suggested the word

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cybot expand it's stuck and so that's

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what this is so what I'd like to do

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today is talk a little bit about the

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basis of cybot X what it is how it works

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it's based upon psychokinesis and

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psychokinesis as you all know involves

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the micro manipulator Nice's let me say

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involves the manipulation at a quantum

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level of randomness using intention and

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this can be carried out in a number of

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different ways and has been demonstrated

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over and over I'm only going to talk

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about two ways very briefly one is with

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the use of dice and so all sorts of

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experiments have been carried out using

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the effect of intention on dice throws

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and one meta-analysis was carried out in

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1991 by Raiden and Ferrari and they

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showed that with a hundred and forty

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eight studies involving more than two

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million dice

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the statistics were overwhelming the

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z-score was close to 20 so that's a

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measure of how many standard deviations

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away from nothing you the effect is so

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it's a huge effect

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the p value corresponds to far less than

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point zero zero one and so it's it's

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infinitesimal the odds against chance

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are huge that this is a real effect

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another example involving psychokinesis

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involves using electronic random number

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generators so these were developed for

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size phenomena in the 70s and 80s by

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Helmut Schmidt and the original random

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number generators involved atomic decay

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and this produced then a randomness

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which was translated into zeros and ones

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so bits which were randomly distributed

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the biggest study of these electronic

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random number generators and how they

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can be manipulated was carried out in

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the pair lab directed by Bob John as

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described by York a little bit earlier

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and they published in 1997 the results

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of a thousand experimental series

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carried out over 12 years in which they

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got huge odds against chance P on the

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order of 10 to the minus 13 the plot

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that I'm showing here is a plot of the

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on the on the vertical axis it shows how

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many bits you deviate from chance from

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randomness and the horizontal axis is in

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thousands of trials and so when the

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operators aimed high they ended up going

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towards the high level at the high line

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when the operators aimed low they went

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towards the low line and then the base

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line was somewhere in between so this is

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another example of psychokinesis

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so all right we've got these

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psychokinesis effects we're proposing a

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technology to

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use them to make some sort of

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instruments some robots that can be used

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physical systems so the question is when

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can we do this when when will we be able

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to know that this actually works the

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answer perhaps surprisingly is that it

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already exists that there already are

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quite a few cybot existence that have

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been demonstrated so for most of this

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talk what I'd like to do is describe to

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you what those cybot exist UM's are how

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they work and then at the end we can

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together perhaps discuss how we might

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make new cybot existence for practical

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applications before I do that I want to

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make a distinction between cybot X and

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another system and that is using brain

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waves so we are not here using brain

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waves to to detect systems instead we

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are actually using Sai to detect systems

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so that's shown in in this slide here

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you can buy for example at a game store

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mindflex games in which you use your

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mind to control a board a ball on a game

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on a board that's not what we're doing

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cybot examples one was called the TAC

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Tyco scope and this was published in

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1986 the basic idea here is it's a

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little motor driven robot run by

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directed by an electronic random number

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generator with a pen in it and as the

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thing moved around the pen drew on the

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paper and they showed statistically

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significant effects in 1995 a paper was

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published on the psychokinetic action of

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young chicks on the path of an

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illuminated source that's just shown in

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the picture here little chicks were put

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into a cage and they were then put into

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a darkened room with a little robot

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robot was a random number generator

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chicks wanted the warmth and the light

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of from the candle presumably and they

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were statistically significantly able to

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direct the machine to move towards them

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six axis random number generator

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statistically significant results okay

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that I'm going to describe in some more

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detail and these are more current

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examples one was carried out at the pear

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lab and published in 2007 and this was

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the response of a random event generator

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an R eg driven robot to operate her

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intention by the way an R eg and an r ng

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are the same thing the pear lab called

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these random event generators rather

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than random number generators the basic

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random robot and the direction that the

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robot moved was determined by the output

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of the random number generator an

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operator sat on the side as shown in the

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picture and looked down at this little

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robot with a frog pasted it to the top

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of it and the Frog started in the middle

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and the rent of the operator using

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intention tried to get the frog to move

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towards him or her and you can see in

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this chart on the bottom right that in

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fact once if the Frog starts in the

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middle it wanders around a bit but

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eventually it might move towards the the

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operator and various studies were

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carried out and statistically

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significant results were obtained it may

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not be the best way to get a robot

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towards you but it works another example

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is the Sylar on mind lamp so Sylar on is

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a company formed out of pear Lab

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technology and they built a number of

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instruments for using in

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and one of them involves having an

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electronic random number generator that

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determines the color of a lamp these are

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it has multiple LEDs in it I have one of

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these in my office and it's a lot of fun

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practice we've developed a technique to

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pretty reliably get the color that we

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whenever they visit before they come

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into the office they compete with each

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be this time and they're often right

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alright so now I want to get on to a

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fairly controversial cybot existen and

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I'm going to argue that this is in fact

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a Saibot exsist 'm and that is the

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global consciousness project you're

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probably all familiar with it it

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consists of random number generators

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distributed around the world this

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madness shows a map with the locations

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of these random number generators called

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eggs and these eggs send the data to a

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lab in Princeton which collects the data

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and looks for some sort of a coherence

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in the data for deviation from

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randomness among the various egg samples

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that are being sent a egg egg the data

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from the various eggs and this has been

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carried out over many years the data is

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very robust and a number of startling

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successes have been shown here is our

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three examples on the top left I show

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the 911 terrorist bombing the blue line

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shows a statistically significant result

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and what it would be the red line shows

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the actual data from the global

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consciousness project and this is as a

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function of time in this case days and

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or was this hours and the red line shows

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that in the time before the

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or around the 911 bombing the data

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deviated statistically significantly

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another example is on the top right

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where Obama wins the nomination in June

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3rd 2008 and once again around the time

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in this case plotted in hours of the

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nomination there was a significant

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deviation from randomness among the eggs

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and the data showed yes there was

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something this has been carried out

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through today at the bottom there's a

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more recent example the women's march on

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Washington in January 21st 2017 which

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results from around the world showed a

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significant deviation from randomness

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I'm not getting going to get into the

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details on all of this the data is

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robust it's available for anybody to

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look at the and it's it's I'm not going

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to argue with the quality about it it's

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very it's a very high quality experiment

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however there are some issues with it

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and in fact there have been some fairly

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strong arguments that in this is not a

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global consciousness effect but rather

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it's something very different in 2009

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Helmut Schmidt wrote a letter to the

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Journal of scientific exploration and

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this is the same Helmut Schmidt who

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developed the electronic random number

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generator for psy experiments and he

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said that the way that the outputs of

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these random number generators from

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around the world are combined is

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arbitrary that in fact one might change

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the phase or the way that they're added

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or subtracted together and that

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therefore the fact that you get some

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sort of a statistically significant

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effect must be due to something besides

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intentions around the world he said it's

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a classical goal-oriented effect and

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that the person who's directing the

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elect the global consciousness project

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Roger Nelson is due to his intention so

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this is a typical experimenter effect

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according to Helmut Schmidt's letter and

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there was argument back and forth again

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I'm not going to go into detail on what

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on the specific arguments another case

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occurred with Peter Mansell so Peter

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Nelson's for a number of years in

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helping with the statistics and so on

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come out with a couple of publications

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highly critical of the logic behind it

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and in in order I'll go through what it

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was he said in in short form so the way

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these electronic random number

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generators work is they produce the

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source which may be an electronic source

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consisting of reverse-biased transistors

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or something produce blips at random

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times but in order to make sure that the

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output is balanced that you get an equal

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number of zeros and ones typically this

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output is X Ord so that's a logical

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process a logical gate in which you mix

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the signal with the output of a square

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wave generator and that produces an

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equal number of zeros and ones but the

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point here is that the product is no

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longer the pure randomness of the source

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instead the product is now a

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manufactured product it's a manipulated

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product and so Peter said there's

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something wrong here it's it's it's

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being manipulated we're not getting pure

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randomness so there's got to be some

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intention involved in in how this is

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working out another issue he raised had

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to do with synchronization there's a

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time stamp for each of these data

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streams that comes from around the world

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and Peter said the time stamp doesn't

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have sufficient resolution to give you

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the sort of coherence effects

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that you observe so the point then is

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what is happening is it global

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consciousness well there are some

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contradictions to whether it's global

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consciousness is it an experimenter

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effect in which Roger Nelson is

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completely driving this thing that's

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been the argument I would argue

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something different and my argument is

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that it's both that it is in fact global

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consciousness but the system is mentally

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programmed by Roger Nelson and that's

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classic saibot --ax hard to say classic

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since we just invented it but it's

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classic cybot axilla sense that it's a

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mixture of a physical system with a

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random source and experimenter intention

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or user intention and so this

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combination is what gives you sigh

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bollocks ok let's go on to another

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example in 2006 I was minding my own

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business in my office and I was

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contacted by a person who had been

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selling some instruments for detection

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of contraband in Singapore and in Korea

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and he wanted to sell them in the United

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States to the military but he needed to

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know the mechanism of action in order to

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sell it to the military so he came to me

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I'm in in the engineering school at the

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University of Colorado and he said ok

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just figure out how this works so we

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know how we can tell the military and I

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show you here the thing it consists of a

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hand-holder with a a antenna pivot that

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pivots around connected by a BNC cable

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to a box that contains the essence of

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the substance to be looked at and he

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includes ivory or THC or explosives and

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so on and the thing works I used it I

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found things in my house I techie

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trained a technician in my lab who got

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to be quite good at using this thing and

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it worked quite well you can see me

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standing there below holding it but I

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looked at this for about one minute and

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I realized this is not an

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electromagnetic wave detector as he

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thought it was and I said go home and

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try it with a non-conducting antenna

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it'll work just as well and so that

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evening he tried it with a plexiglass

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antenna and he said it worked just as

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well and was very surprised so he had a

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very well worked out process for this

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and how to make it work we designed a

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strongly a triple blinded study to check

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the effect and make sure that it worked

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and carried it out in a field in in

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Boulder Colorado and he was the person

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operating the system it failed

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not only did he not was he not able to

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find the objects that were hidden but he

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he statistically significantly missed

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them and got the wrong locations and he

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was absolutely devastated by this effect

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and he went back home and I never heard

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from him again he stopped selling these

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so that was fine and dandy that was 2006

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then in 2009 I was reading the New York

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Times and saw an article that says Iraq

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swears by bomb detector USC's is useless

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and I looked at the picture and said hmm

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I know that thing and it turns out it

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was the same thing this was being built

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by a guy in the UK James McCormick as a

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bomb detection device he was selling

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them for between 15 and 60 thousand

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dollars each which is about a thousand

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times more than it costs to build and

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the Iraqis were using it and getting

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quite good results with it they were

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quite happy with it but then the US

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military came in and said this cannot

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work and that was terrible the Iraqi

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government spent 52 million pounds

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buying these things a few years later

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2013 I got I was contacted by the UK

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police department they had arrested

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James McCormick and we're making a case

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against him and I'd heard that I'd

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tested it and wanted me to make a

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deposition I was a little bit hesitant

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to to them to do so because I know that

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this sort of dowsing apparatus does work

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but under Sony specific conditions and

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so I gave them the minimum

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amount of information I needed to then a

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few weeks later I got I was contacted by

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the solicitor for the defense who asked

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the same questions and I gave him the

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same sort of information and a little

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bit later here's an article in CNN maker

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a fake bomb detector gets 10 years in

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prison and investigators say that it put

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lives at risk

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so a sad end to this story this is a

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psychotic system and it worked very well

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when it worked all right let's go on and

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go to another example this example is

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something we built in our lab and it was

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inspired by an experiment by

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Spottiswoode in May carried out in 2003

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so Spottiswoode in May had a poor

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subject who was sitting next to an

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electronic horn that at random times

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would blast in their ear then the

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subject was wired up with various things

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including a galvanic skin response that

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measured the conductivity of their skin

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the conductivity of the skin is a very

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good measure of emotional response and

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as you can imagine when the horn went

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off their emotional response went

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haywire however looking very closely at

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the data something interesting was

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happening this is a plot from their

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paper in 2003 in which they show on the

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vertical axis the conductivity of the

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skin and on the horizontal axis the time

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the t equals zero is when the horn went

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off the response started a couple of

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seconds before this randomly timed horn

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went off and that was it was a pretty

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robust result it had been replicated

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many times there's some controversy in

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its interpretation again I'm not going

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to go into the details on that but the

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fact is it worked

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so I thought damn why can't we build

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this sort of a system without these

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sentient bags of salt water if we could

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do it instead and not have human beings

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but instead just make it out of

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instruments wouldn't that be cool then

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we could do SCI

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more reproducibly and and show how

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interesting it is to work so I came up

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with a following system to do it it

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involves two electronic random number

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generator so I'm going to call this the

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dual RNG system the one on the right is

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the subject random number generator and

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this subject random number generator is

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spewing bits out to a central computer

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and the computer is recording it then at

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a random time the controlling RNG which

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is the one shown at the far left shuts

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off the subject random number generator

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and the idea was to see could the

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subject random number generator

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anticipate its own demise would the bits

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that were being sent to the central

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computer show some sort of a deviation a

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little bit of time before the subject

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was shut off so I commissioned Adam

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curry at Sylar on to build this thing

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and he did some nice work and built a

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system then a grad student of mine at

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the time James Zhu who is a very good

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grad student and very very reliable

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developed the software for this system

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with all sorts of controls and time

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stamps and so on to make sure that it

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was working the way that we thought it

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was working finally we got to the day

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where it was going to be operating and

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so he turned it on and he did a few

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hundred trials they seemed positive did

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a few hundred more and so on so at that

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beginning time he did seventeen hundred

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and thirty test trials and seven hundred

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and thirty control trials so this is a

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plot showing the results you can see

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that the blue line hovers around point

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five which means half ones and half

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zeroes and the the obsessive the

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horizontal axis is a time before shut

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off shut off occurs at the right a T

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equals zero on the right and the test

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the the control consisted of the same

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thing as the test system except we never

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actually did shut off the

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subject random number generator and as

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you can see it hovers around 0.5 and

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stays there the test subject on the

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other hand was the one that was shut off

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and about a second or so before shut off

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it deviated sharply from 0.5 and went

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down quite a bit in general random

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number generator studies done around the

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globe by different groups the effect

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size tends to be at what about one part

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in 10,000 we got effect sizes of one

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part in 40 so these were huge effects

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and it was very very statistically

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significant so this just blew blew our

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minds we were really excited we started

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thinking ok how are we gonna use this

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what is this gonna do and so on so one

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of the things that you could do with

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this for example is to have a system in

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which say you're doing day trading on a

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stock market and you shut off the

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subject random number generator at a

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predetermined time if the stock is going

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down at that point and you keep it on if

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the stock has remained high at that

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point then you take a look at the output

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of this subject random number generator

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in the computer before the stock trade

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and you can tell in advance of the stock

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trade a few seconds whether it's going

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to go up or down and you can invest

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accordingly and so you could do

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thousands and thousands of trades in a

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day make lots of money support my lab to

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continue the research support the

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Society of scientific exploration so we

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go to really fancy hotels and so we got

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very excited about this thing and then

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one of the things we wanted to do was

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try some variations so each I we changed

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bit rate we changed various other

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parameters in the system and it didn't

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seem to go very well when we made

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changes then about 20 days later we

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decided to replicate the original

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experiment with the original software

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original hardware exactly as described

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and we got nothing

550
00:26:35,170 --> 00:26:32,600
no effect whatsoever so in this case the

551
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:35,180
test and the control were identical they

552
00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:38,510
both gave you about 0.5 at that point I

553
00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:39,620
realized wait a minute

554
00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:42,350
this is not what we thought it was this

555
00:26:47,290 --> 00:26:45,740
is a classical effect where you get a

556
00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:47,300
strong effect to begin with

557
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:51,400
later it it declines this is an

558
00:26:56,770 --> 00:26:54,410
experimenter decline effect and in fact

559
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:56,780
it's not the random number generators

560
00:27:01,180 --> 00:26:58,970
who are doing all of this work it's us

561
00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:01,190
it's our intention that sets up the

562
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:02,870
random number generators to work this

563
00:27:09,130 --> 00:27:07,670
way so this in retrospect is another

564
00:27:12,370 --> 00:27:09,140
cybot ik system

565
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:12,380
it's a psy bottom in which you set it up

566
00:27:17,950 --> 00:27:15,310
to determine in advance whether

567
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:17,960
something is going to be whether an

568
00:27:22,210 --> 00:27:19,910
event is going to occur or not at a

569
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:22,220
future time and if you do it right you

570
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:24,890
can tell quite reliably when whether

571
00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:28,730
this is going to happen or not okay let

572
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:31,550
me talk about another experiment that we

573
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:34,430
did and this is something that involves

574
00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:38,000
remote viewing so we're calling this the

575
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:40,870
Machine mediated remote viewing system

576
00:27:47,530 --> 00:27:44,450
the experiment consists of two parts the

577
00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:47,540
first part is the usual sort of remote

578
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:50,540
viewing so a subject attempt to draw a

579
00:27:56,110 --> 00:27:53,930
target hidden in an envelope and so the

580
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:56,120
subject picks an envelope then draws the

581
00:28:01,480 --> 00:27:59,600
target and later judges judge it but we

582
00:28:05,290 --> 00:28:01,490
added an additional ingredient to this

583
00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:05,300
and this is inspired by field reg

584
00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:09,350
experiments we put a random number

585
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:11,990
generator in the room sitting next to

586
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:15,200
the subject unbeknownst to them this

587
00:28:19,210 --> 00:28:17,270
random number generator was spewing bits

588
00:28:23,050 --> 00:28:19,220
out at the same time which went to a

589
00:28:27,580 --> 00:28:23,060
computer we then used that computer to

590
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:27,590
draw a raster scanned image and along

591
00:28:33,130 --> 00:28:30,290
with the image that the subject was

592
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:33,140
drawing the judges judged the raster

593
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:34,730
scanned image by the way these were done

594
00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:37,010
at separate times we didn't take the

595
00:28:42,970 --> 00:28:39,500
pair together each one was was

596
00:28:45,130 --> 00:28:42,980
tested individually so in order to draw

597
00:28:52,270 --> 00:28:45,140
the raster scanned image we took about

598
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:52,280
50,000 bits per image and arranged them

599
00:28:56,530 --> 00:28:54,230
in groups of a hundred bits averaged

600
00:28:59,290 --> 00:28:56,540
them and thresholded them so that they

601
00:29:01,270 --> 00:28:59,300
became either a 1 or a 0 if it was a 1

602
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:01,280
we would draw a dot if it was a 0 we

603
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:03,710
would draw nothing and raster scan did

604
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:06,080
in this way by the way this was carried

605
00:29:13,270 --> 00:29:10,810
out by a student who took this psych

606
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:13,280
science of psychic phenomena edges of

607
00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:18,170
science class that I taught in 2013 I

608
00:29:25,210 --> 00:29:23,480
think and so this was his project and so

609
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,220
here's an example I don't know if you

610
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:27,200
can see it well enough on the chart but

611
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:31,130
I'd like you to judge so the possible

612
00:29:36,430 --> 00:29:34,970
subjects were Zener card images and so

613
00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:36,440
if you take a look at the drawing on the

614
00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:39,140
left does it look more like a zero

615
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:42,980
a-plus squiggly line box triangle or I

616
00:29:57,070 --> 00:29:54,970
okay so here more most of the loudest of

617
00:29:58,930 --> 00:29:57,080
the squiggly lines now the one on the

618
00:30:00,460 --> 00:29:58,940
right which was judged separately and

619
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:00,470
before you judge it let me give you

620
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:01,820
little instructions here which we

621
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:03,920
learned after judging these images

622
00:30:09,490 --> 00:30:07,490
because this is a very low pixel density

623
00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:09,500
image there are naturally going to be

624
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:11,660
pluses and squares because it's on a

625
00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:14,390
square array so unless it's a really

626
00:30:20,380 --> 00:30:16,760
strong looking square or a strong

627
00:30:22,810 --> 00:30:20,390
looking plus seek another image if it's

628
00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:22,820
possibly a zero or possibly a squiggly

629
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:25,160
line or possibly a star choose that

630
00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:27,950
rather than the pluses or squares so

631
00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:28,910
what do you think of that one on the

632
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:36,740
right star well at the time the judges

633
00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:38,990
judged that to be a squiggly line as

634
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:40,700
well and so this was a rank order

635
00:30:46,740 --> 00:30:43,610
judging it turned out in this case the

636
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:46,750
actual object in the envelope was a star

637
00:30:52,570 --> 00:30:49,010
okay let's do another

638
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:52,580
so what do you say for the drawn images

639
00:31:01,810 --> 00:31:00,080
on the left plus square so it really

640
00:31:04,450 --> 00:31:01,820
depends on which of those two images you

641
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:04,460
choose right what about the one on the

642
00:31:17,230 --> 00:31:14,510
right plus square okay it seems like the

643
00:31:19,390 --> 00:31:17,240
pluses were the loudest let's see so the

644
00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:19,400
judges judged a square on the left a

645
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:21,500
plus on the right and in fact it was a

646
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:24,410
plus so the Machine mediated remote

647
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,130
viewing was correct the the one that was

648
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:30,320
judged from the drawn image was

649
00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:32,750
incorrect we also carried out

650
00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:35,300
experiments in which there was just a

651
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:37,460
machine mediated remote viewing where

652
00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:38,960
the subject just sat there and thought

653
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:41,990
but didn't draw anything so what do you

654
00:31:48,790 --> 00:31:47,150
think about this one let me guide your

655
00:31:51,670 --> 00:31:48,800
thinking on this I know this isn't fair

656
00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:51,680
but if you look at it does it look

657
00:31:58,150 --> 00:31:56,270
circle ish nah wiggly line maybe but

658
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:58,160
there's sort of an emanating quality to

659
00:32:01,510 --> 00:31:59,330
it right there's something that seems to

660
00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:01,520
be emanating from the center going out

661
00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:02,990
at least that's what I thought when I

662
00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:06,230
judged it and I judged it as a star and

663
00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:10,460
in fact it was a star now I just showed

664
00:32:13,870 --> 00:32:12,140
you three examples where the judging was

665
00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:13,880
correct of course there were cases where

666
00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:16,820
the judging was incorrect and this shows

667
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:18,980
the statistics for the results

668
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:21,470
we did get statistically significant

669
00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:25,730
results this the raster scanned images

670
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:28,550
were more statistically significant or

671
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,770
more significant in their results than

672
00:32:37,930 --> 00:32:32,720
the drawn images and you can see that in

673
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:37,940
the two left-hand ish columns where the

674
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:40,490
p-value was point both two for the

675
00:32:47,370 --> 00:32:44,480
raster scanned image then when we did

676
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:47,380
trials with only the MMRV

677
00:32:53,890 --> 00:32:50,210
there they were less statistically

678
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:53,900
significant and if you combine the two

679
00:32:57,610 --> 00:32:55,850
we ended up with it with a study which

680
00:33:00,520 --> 00:32:57,620
showed fairly strong statistical

681
00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:00,530
significance just a few quick points

682
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:02,720
here in the remote

683
00:33:08,050 --> 00:33:05,570
in MMRV runs why was there a higher tea

684
00:33:10,150 --> 00:33:08,060
score for the raster scanned images

685
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:10,160
compared with the drawn images and I

686
00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:12,370
would argue that the reason is that

687
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:14,900
there's an analytical overlay that may

688
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:19,870
occur with the hand-drawn drawings and

689
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:22,310
according to my remote viewing teacher

690
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:25,970
Paul Smith you know if say the correct

691
00:33:30,250 --> 00:33:28,490
image is a fork you may see a something

692
00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:30,260
going up like this and something going

693
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:32,300
down like that mistake it for a brush or

694
00:33:36,490 --> 00:33:34,610
a hand and then you you start drawing

695
00:33:40,330 --> 00:33:36,500
the wrong things presumably the Machine

696
00:33:43,090 --> 00:33:40,340
doesn't do that then some other

697
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:43,100
questions why was the raster scanned T

698
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,710
score for the remote viewing runs ones

699
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:47,120
where we did the drawing at the same

700
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:50,510
time larger than the T score for the

701
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:53,090
cases where you did only the machine

702
00:33:57,850 --> 00:33:55,910
driven remote viewing perhaps because

703
00:34:00,460 --> 00:33:57,860
there was too much thinking going on

704
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,470
with ones where someone was just sitting

705
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:01,760
there thinking when they were drawing

706
00:34:06,550 --> 00:34:03,710
they were sort of applying their mind to

707
00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:06,560
draw something so then comes a more deep

708
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:08,840
deeper question how can the arbitrary

709
00:34:14,110 --> 00:34:12,290
mapping of a raster scan produce an

710
00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:14,120
image right because you could raster

711
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:15,710
scan it this way you could raster scan

712
00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:17,870
it this way how you combine it is purely

713
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:21,590
arbitrary that's classic cybot X it's

714
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:23,570
the experimenter influenced so you in

715
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:25,130
advance determine how you want it to

716
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:28,190
work and so it works that way then what

717
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:29,870
other sort of images might you do this

718
00:34:34,570 --> 00:34:32,540
way well you could do all sorts of

719
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:34,580
things you could do microscopy you could

720
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:37,280
look at ultra-fast processes you could

721
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:39,050
look at hidden images just as you do

722
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:41,750
with remote viewing traditional

723
00:34:46,140 --> 00:34:43,610
experiments you could look at images in

724
00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:46,150
the future there all sorts of things

725
00:34:50,050 --> 00:34:47,390
okay

726
00:34:54,220 --> 00:34:50,060
so let's spend a minute or two talking

727
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:54,230
about what sorts of issues there are in

728
00:34:59,170 --> 00:34:56,720
trying to make Saibot expectable if we

729
00:35:02,410 --> 00:34:59,180
want to start saibot excoriation what do

730
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:02,420
we need to do first of all we've got to

731
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:04,280
choose the appropriate applications if

732
00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:06,320
we want to draw if we want to have a

733
00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:08,870
mobile robot it like the pair lab

734
00:35:13,210 --> 00:35:11,660
probably a bad idea because it's going

735
00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:13,220
to wander all over the place it's not a

736
00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:15,230
very efficient way to get the thing

737
00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:17,180
where you want it to go on the other

738
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:19,100
hand if you want to do something we're

739
00:35:23,770 --> 00:35:21,680
getting right more times than not is

740
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,780
sufficient light for instance stock

741
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:26,000
market investment then then you've got

742
00:35:34,690 --> 00:35:31,010
something a big issue here has to do

743
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:34,700
with the reliability and reproducibility

744
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:36,680
of the effect because what we're doing

745
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:38,570
is we're applying mental control here

746
00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:39,530
how do we do it

747
00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:43,340
well one possibility might be something

748
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:46,420
light like controlled remote viewing so

749
00:35:52,420 --> 00:35:48,650
controlled remote viewing takes the

750
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:52,430
basic idea of clairvoyance and really

751
00:35:57,550 --> 00:35:54,650
refined it quite a bit till you got a

752
00:36:00,910 --> 00:35:57,560
very refined art this was as done by

753
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:00,920
Ingo Swann and he'll put off which then

754
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:03,710
became the remote viewing protocol can

755
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:06,880
one do the same thing with micro PK

756
00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:09,260
perhaps you can I know it's been tried

757
00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:12,280
to some extent perhaps not well enough

758
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:17,150
in a talk that's going to be given a

759
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:18,710
little bit later this morning Sean

760
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:19,490
McNamara

761
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:21,890
is going to describe some experiments

762
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:24,410
that he's done in which he has been able

763
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:27,890
to really control his mind to control a

764
00:36:31,780 --> 00:36:30,470
system and produce some some pretty

765
00:36:34,090 --> 00:36:31,790
interesting effects and I've actually

766
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:34,100
done this with him and I've been very

767
00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:36,730
very impressed

768
00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:39,380
another issue might be using a physical

769
00:36:44,340 --> 00:36:41,840
crutch for example if you're doing

770
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:44,350
dowsing you've got a dowsing rod or our

771
00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:46,760
ATSC detector which worked very well

772
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:49,580
there's a physical system somehow things

773
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:51,050
seem to work better when you've got a

774
00:36:56,530 --> 00:36:53,390
physical system like psychometrics

775
00:36:59,260 --> 00:36:56,540
is a way of remembering somebody by

776
00:37:01,420 --> 00:36:59,270
looking at a physical thing that they

777
00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:01,430
had probably the physical thing doesn't

778
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:03,590
contain in any information but it's a

779
00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:05,810
vehicle and so having a vehicle to make

780
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:08,660
this work might help it and then finally

781
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:12,530
mind-control Yogi's meditators people

782
00:37:17,370 --> 00:37:14,510
who are able to control their mind have

783
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:17,380
been shown to really do a lot better on

784
00:37:23,349 --> 00:37:20,480
micro PK experiments so there may be

785
00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:23,359
ways to do this so in conclusion

786
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:26,180
cybot --ax which is physical

787
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:29,210
robots driven by sai mediated in ten

788
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:32,210
can enhance human function it's already

789
00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:33,710
worked I gave a number of examples

790
00:37:38,610 --> 00:37:36,590
including a mobile robot mind lamp

791
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:38,620
global consciousness project a

792
00:37:44,650 --> 00:37:41,350
contraband detection and dowsing

793
00:37:47,650 --> 00:37:44,660
prediction using a double a dual random

794
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:47,660
number generator experiment and machine

795
00:37:53,530 --> 00:37:50,570
mediated remote viewing so my question

796
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:53,540
to you is what applications can you

797
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:56,180
envision perhaps something really simple

798
00:38:02,200 --> 00:37:59,330
like a random number generator driven

799
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:02,210
shuffle for your iPod so that the music

800
00:38:07,330 --> 00:38:03,890
that plays is the one that you just want

801
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:07,340
at that time or maybe you might even ask

802
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:11,060
is is a pyramid a cybot exsist 'm is it

803
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:13,850
actually driven by intention I'd be

804
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:17,130
interested in what you think thank you

805
00:38:27,070 --> 00:38:24,610
[Applause]

806
00:38:32,070 --> 00:38:27,080
okay I don't even have to say questions

807
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:34,420
fantastic presentation really

808
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:37,610
interesting um I'm interested in the

809
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:39,530
decline effect what is the difference

810
00:38:46,030 --> 00:38:42,790
between your your little stock picking

811
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:46,040
device between the intention you had

812
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:49,130
initially where it was successful and

813
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:52,400
then the second time why would your

814
00:38:55,930 --> 00:38:54,170
intention be so different and why would

815
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:55,940
you did not get the same positive

816
00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:01,040
results I wish I knew the answer I think

817
00:39:08,490 --> 00:39:02,840
the answer is probably going to be the

818
00:39:11,710 --> 00:39:08,500
same as what our speaker last evening

819
00:39:13,690 --> 00:39:11,720
gallenberger talked about that there's

820
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:13,700
some sort of a purity of intention and

821
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:16,370
enthusiasm that starts off an experiment

822
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:18,890
and something seems to dissipate yeah

823
00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:21,980
let me suggest novelty somehow novelty

824
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:32,350
there's potential here for hours of

825
00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:37,280
discussion but I like to touch on just

826
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:42,230
one point on the MMRV I'm wondering why

827
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:46,910
you chose to throw away so much of the

828
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:51,530
information given that especially in

829
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:55,090
these later days we're all accustomed to

830
00:40:01,480 --> 00:39:57,440
pixelated images on the news and

831
00:40:03,490 --> 00:40:01,490
elsewhere that have been turned in into

832
00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:03,500
big blocks to try to obscure information

833
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:06,380
and trying to see whatever we can beyond

834
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:08,210
it do you think the judge might have

835
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:10,190
been able to do better if instead of

836
00:40:19,420 --> 00:40:13,910
having an array of dots and blanks you

837
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:19,430
had retained the full numbers and had

838
00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:22,400
greyscale in different shades very good

839
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:25,340
point the reason is that this was a

840
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,310
student project and he had time to do it

841
00:40:33,310 --> 00:40:31,040
one way he did it one way and that was

842
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:33,320
the result we had I would love to do

843
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:34,970
exactly what you said I'd love to

844
00:40:41,830 --> 00:40:37,550
do it with greyscale I'd like to do it

845
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:41,840
with a much finer array of pixels and if

846
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:43,760
somebody is interested in doing the

847
00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:45,410
programming on this thing and working

848
00:40:50,350 --> 00:40:47,870
with me that would be wonderful this is

849
00:40:52,420 --> 00:40:50,360
something where we just did it and then

850
00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:52,430
the guy graduated and now he's off

851
00:40:55,710 --> 00:40:54,830
working in some aerospace company

852
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:55,720
somewhere

853
00:41:01,600 --> 00:40:59,090
my father was psychometric and he

854
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:01,610
utilized psychometry to found the field

855
00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:04,310
of highway safety in America dad's

856
00:41:09,370 --> 00:41:06,350
research at Harvard got Ralph Nader's

857
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:09,380
started the book unsafe at any speed so

858
00:41:14,530 --> 00:41:12,410
he talked to cars and he talked to

859
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:14,540
inanimate objects on a regular basis

860
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:17,450
they the inanimate object has a

861
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:20,930
non-sentient consciousness and is aware

862
00:41:29,110 --> 00:41:23,450
of what goes on around it and records

863
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:29,120
images in it ok so you it is not that

864
00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:32,530
the psychometry person is perceiving

865
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:37,430
environmental stimuli the the object

866
00:41:43,780 --> 00:41:40,880
itself is being read so what it has

867
00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:43,790
perceived so what you say reminds me of

868
00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:46,670
a story where Bob John had was showing

869
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:50,030
the Dalai Lama around the pear lab and

870
00:41:56,350 --> 00:41:54,160
as the Dalai Lama was at was leaving and

871
00:41:59,290 --> 00:41:56,360
Bob John had answered a lot of questions

872
00:42:03,400 --> 00:41:59,300
the Dalai Lama asked Bob do you have a

873
00:42:06,310 --> 00:42:03,410
question for me and Bob asked is this

874
00:42:08,290 --> 00:42:06,320
random event generator conscious the

875
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:08,300
Dalai Lama thought for a minute and he

876
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:10,580
said if you think it's conscious then

877
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:17,330
it's conscious great talk so I have an

878
00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:18,980
endorsement caveat in question that I'll

879
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:21,320
try to do really fast so endorsement is

880
00:42:24,490 --> 00:42:22,910
I think from a cylon standpoint we

881
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:24,500
obviously 100% agree with this

882
00:42:29,860 --> 00:42:26,690
programmability thing I think there's

883
00:42:31,210 --> 00:42:29,870
probably dozens of examples that along

884
00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:31,220
the lines of what you're saying so I

885
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:33,800
think that's great and it's important

886
00:42:36,460 --> 00:42:35,060
for people to realize it because I think

887
00:42:38,830 --> 00:42:36,470
it would save a lot of time in the

888
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:38,840
explorations that they do the caveat

889
00:42:42,430 --> 00:42:40,670
would be I think the effect size

890
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:42,440
statement I think the effect size issue

891
00:42:46,270 --> 00:42:44,450
is also subject to this program ability

892
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:46,280
so depending on how you define an

893
00:42:48,910 --> 00:42:46,910
experiment

894
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:48,920
very easy to scale it up and down by

895
00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:50,960
several orders of magnitude that's one

896
00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:52,270
thing and then the question would be

897
00:42:56,650 --> 00:42:54,680
given that there's all this sign missing

898
00:42:59,260 --> 00:42:56,660
and you know issues with decline effects

899
00:43:01,809 --> 00:42:59,270
etc can we ever actually have reliable

900
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:01,819
applications even though we do have its

901
00:43:05,799 --> 00:43:03,770
programmability feature would you ask

902
00:43:09,279 --> 00:43:05,809
the same question about clairvoyance

903
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:09,289
before remote viewing was started well I

904
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:11,210
think the mainstream still doesn't

905
00:43:14,859 --> 00:43:12,650
accept any of those things because we

906
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:14,869
don't have the degree of deterministic

907
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:16,940
reliability that we get from most

908
00:43:21,069 --> 00:43:18,910
technology in the normal paradigm so

909
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,079
yeah you think we can put these

910
00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:23,119
applications into that camp but is there

911
00:43:26,829 --> 00:43:24,980
is there a hope to put it into a more

912
00:43:32,099 --> 00:43:26,839
you know conventional application you

913
00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:35,079
as an engineer I think I see a key to

914
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:38,359
this when you show the decline effect in

915
00:43:43,299 --> 00:43:40,609
the robot itself if we assume that it

916
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:43,309
was the RNG and that the experimenter

917
00:43:47,529 --> 00:43:44,329
doing it

918
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:47,539
so if we treat the robots as as semi

919
00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:50,480
living or unconscious like was it Paul

920
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:53,150
the artificial ghost decline effect

921
00:44:01,269 --> 00:43:57,680
suggests training effects so if we can

922
00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:01,279
train a product that's based on a random

923
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:02,990
random number generators and then

924
00:44:08,289 --> 00:44:06,049
somehow make haunted randomizers that do

925
00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:08,299
what we want because we've treated them

926
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:10,760
as children and spent years in training

927
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:14,000
until they start doing things and then

928
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:16,609
copy them which is sort of how human

929
00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:21,470
beings are made that's the opposite of

930
00:44:26,019 --> 00:44:24,380
the decline effect and I got this from a

931
00:44:30,670 --> 00:44:26,029
waking up in the middle night with

932
00:44:34,450 --> 00:44:30,680
intense dream of a expose eye experiment

933
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:34,460
which the dream was the magic 8-ball was

934
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:36,770
trained by the intention of hundreds of

935
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:38,990
thousands of people and when it first

936
00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:41,690
was made didn't actually work and it was

937
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:45,980
purely random but today it actually is

938
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:49,849
like a cybot that it's doing is making

939
00:44:54,819 --> 00:44:52,880
accurate predictions so the experiment

940
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:54,829
would be to look at random number

941
00:44:58,210 --> 00:44:55,730
generators

942
00:45:00,580 --> 00:44:58,220
and see if we have like a thousand

943
00:45:04,330 --> 00:45:00,590
students come through and on one of them

944
00:45:06,970 --> 00:45:04,340
and try to get them to do something will

945
00:45:10,090 --> 00:45:06,980
the student intention slowly train our

946
00:45:11,740 --> 00:45:10,100
instruments to do what the students will

947
00:45:14,020 --> 00:45:11,750
not and then we can watch that happen

948
00:45:16,540 --> 00:45:14,030
over the months where it's purely random

949
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:16,550
when we start until it starts doing

950
00:45:21,490 --> 00:45:19,130
things let's try it interesting so we

951
00:45:24,370 --> 00:45:21,500
now have two votes for honoring the

952
00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:24,380
random number generator their honor

953
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:26,660
honoring the instrument yes

954
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:29,090
great talk Aaron and maybe another word

955
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:31,010
for this as psychotronics which goes

956
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:32,930
back to the sixties it's a little

957
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,850
different I actually watched your video

958
00:45:39,010 --> 00:45:37,040
on psychotronics recently just to see

959
00:45:46,030 --> 00:45:39,020
the distinction but you're the experts

960
00:45:48,990 --> 00:45:46,040
please go ahead pyramidal structures

961
00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:49,000
which we found enhanced human intention

962
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,960
to with plant growth the biomass was

963
00:46:00,310 --> 00:45:56,720
almost twice as large this is dry weight

964
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:00,320
my biomass of Kentucky wonder beans that

965
00:46:06,010 --> 00:46:03,710
grew in a non-native substrate so with

966
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:06,020
intention alone it was about 16% more

967
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:08,450
biomass and it was about 36% more

968
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:15,880
thank you

969
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:17,450
so I do want to make the distinction

970
00:46:24,010 --> 00:46:21,050
here between psychotronics and Saibot

971
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:24,020
--ax where one involves more just direct

972
00:46:28,990 --> 00:46:26,000
influence on living systems and another

973
00:46:30,730 --> 00:46:29,000
uses a machine to mediate it you're

974
00:46:32,830 --> 00:46:30,740
saying in this particular case a pyramid

975
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:32,840
did the mediation and so that's that's

976
00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:38,240
an intermediate area thank you thank you